Legislature(2003 - 2004)

08/18/2004 10:07 AM House BUD

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
        JOINT COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT                                                                       
                        August 18, 2004                                                                                         
                           10:07 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ralph Samuels, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Beth Kerttula (via teleconference)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gene Therriault, Vice Chair (via teleconference)                                                                        
Senator Gary Wilken (via teleconference)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ben Stevens                                                                                                             
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
DISCUSSION OF CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH CONSULTANT ON GAS                                                                        
PIPELINE ISSUES                                                                                                                 
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                               
DISCUSSION OF 2003 STATEWIDE SINGLE AUDIT                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
No witnesses to record                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR  RALPH SAMUELS  called the  Joint Committee  on Legislative                                                             
Budget and Audit meeting to  order at 10:07 a.m.  Representatives                                                               
Samuels, Chenault, Hawker, and  Kerttula (via teleconference) and                                                               
Senators  Therriault   (via  teleconference),  and   Wilken  (via                                                               
teleconference) were present at the call to order.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  made a  motion to  approve the  minutes of                                                               
April 27,  May 18, June  16, and June 17,  2004.  There  being no                                                               
objection, the minutes from those meetings were approved.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DISCUSSION  OF   CONTRACT  AMENDMENTS  WITH  CONSULTANT   ON  GAS                                                             
PIPELINE ISSUES                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  moved that  the committee  authorize Chair                                                               
Samuels to amend the committee's  contract with consultant Bonnie                                                               
Robson  to  an amount  not  to  exceed  $200,000, with  no  other                                                               
changes to the contract.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SAMUELS objected  for discussion  purposes.   He explained                                                               
that  originally  the contract  was  for  up to  $100,000,  which                                                               
hasn't all  been spent  yet.   He informed  the committee  of the                                                               
following work  that has  occurred:   shopping for  economists to                                                               
perform  modeling;  work  with   the  Federal  Energy  Regulatory                                                               
Commission  (FERC)  attorneys;  and joint  hearings  with  Senate                                                               
Resources  Standing Committee.    Therefore, much  work has  been                                                               
done in preparation and anticipation  of obtaining a Stranded Gas                                                               
Act  contract.   Chair  Samuels said  that  he didn't  anticipate                                                               
going through  the last half  of the  contract as quickly  as the                                                               
first part  of it.   Only  one set of  joint hearings  will occur                                                               
unless there are requests for  further meetings.  Therefore, this                                                               
is merely  to ensure that  there are  enough funds to  cover what                                                               
the committee is doing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER asked if the  consultant's billing is based                                                               
on an  hourly rate calculation.   He also asked if  the committee                                                               
is going through the detailed billings.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SAMUELS replied yes to both.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KERTTULA asked  whether  all of  the experts  are                                                               
being paid with this money or is this just the attorneys' fees.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SAMUELS answered that he  believes it's just the attorneys'                                                               
fees and  the experts are being  paid separately.  He  noted that                                                               
the committee  has paid some  of the experts who  have testified,                                                               
although  most  of  the  presenters  haven't  been  paid  by  the                                                               
committee.   There  has  been  some out  of  pocket expenses,  he                                                               
mentioned.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA requested copies of the bills.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  asked  if,  from  the  total  $200,000,  the                                                               
committee would be able to pay some of the experts.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SAMUELS  replied  no.    He clarified  that  most  of  the                                                               
original $100,000  has already  been used,  and by  mid September                                                               
that amount  will be used up.   Therefore, he said  he was trying                                                               
to  avoid doing  this  with smaller  increments.   Chair  Samuels                                                               
announced  that he  didn't anticipate  going  through the  second                                                               
$100,000 at all.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SAMUELS removed his objection.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being  no other  objection, the  motion to  authorize Chair                                                               
Samuels to amend the committee's  contract with consultant Bonnie                                                               
Robson  to  an amount  not  to  exceed  $200,000, with  no  other                                                               
changes to the contract carried.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER made a motion  to move to executive session                                                               
for the  purpose of discussing  confidential audit  reports under                                                               
AS 24.20.301.  There being  no objection, the committee went into                                                               
executive session.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SAMUELS  brought  the  committee   back  to  order  at  an                                                               
unspecified time.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DISCUSSION OF 2003 STATEWIDE SINGLE AUDIT                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  made a  motion  that  the 2003  statewide                                                               
single audit report  be released to the  appropriate agencies for                                                               
response.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the Joint                                                               
Committee on  Legislative Budget and Audit  meeting was adjourned                                                               
at 10:23 a.m.                                                                                                                   

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